Question:
Which airlines am I qualified to work for (as a pilot)?
Vincero
2012-12-08 02:56:21 UTC
I'm currently doing a Bachelor in Aviation, and by the time I finish, I will have the following certificates:

-PPL (Private Pilot License)
-IR (Instrument Rating)
-MEP (Multi-Engine Piston)
-CPL (Commercial Pilot License)
-ATPL (Airline Transport Pilot License)

I will also have approximately 220 flight-hours, of which 50 will be in a simulator.
Note that I'm willing to pay for my own type-rating if it comes to that :)

Additional information:
I'll do my bachelor in northern-Norway, and will therefore do my flying in an arctic climate.
I'm interested in airlines that would hire me themselves, rather than those that hire from a recruitment agency.

Thanks a bunch :)
Seven answers:
Skipper 747
2012-12-08 05:45:37 UTC
None...



By the time you have your licence (EASA I assume) it will NOT be ATPL -

It will be a CPL with a "frozen" ATPL - means it is a CPL -



There are presently some 1,000 (or more) A320 and B737 captains and first officers who lost their job with various airlines in Europe, and will be the first choice for ANY airline, including the airlines in Norway - So, do not expect employment soon -



Pilots with some 1,000 hrs on A320 and B737 are first choice - Not you with 220 hrs -

And your bachelor degree of aviation in Europe is worthless, and not required -

You probably "imagine" that a degree is required - not in Europe -

What you read here in "aircraft forum" about degrees pertains to USA -



Recruitment agencies would not in any case interested in you with your 220 hrs -

You need at least 300 hrs as F/O with P2 type rating such as A320 or B737 -

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Zaphod Beeblebrox
2012-12-08 16:07:49 UTC
What the flight schools and aviation colleges never seem to tell their students is that even the small regional airlines require far more experience than their graduates have when they finish flight training. With the exception of a few direct-entry cadet programs, this is universally true. While 220 hours is very expensive to get, it is very insignificant experience. First off, with 220 hours you will not have a full ATP rating, it is a limited or "frozen" ATPL, meaning you have passed the academic requirements but do not have the experience requirements (1,500 hours).



A full ATPL is the MINIMUM level preferred by most airlines, and competitive qualifications are often much higher. Right now there is no shortage of pilots in Europe and the major airlines expect applicants to have a lot of experience, numbering in the thousands of hours and years of work experience.



The best option for employment is often to obtain the flight instructor certificates and teach at a flight school for a few years in order to gain more flying experience and knowledge. Good luck.
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2012-12-08 11:37:09 UTC
Woah, slow down hombre. No one is going to hire you with 170h TT (airlines don't take sim time). Many fresh pilots out there, you have to stand in line. What I'd recommend you - take instructor rating instead of type rating. You have to somehow build flight experience, instructing is a good way. If you manage to find a job as an outback/freight pilot, even better... Also (depending on where you live) you don't have to go through CPL. Norwegian requires 1500h TT for the A320 right seat + 500h on type (100h as PIC). So take any job you can find when you finish and fly as much as you can.

There's also another way... Indonesians will take you with 250 hours, as well as Nigerians. You'll pay for type rating and fly for $1,000 a month in awful conditions. But you'll work. So look for any job available on the market you're qualified for, everywhere on the planet, including fish spotting, aerial photography, joyrides, glider towing and rest. Apply to all. Fight. You'll get there eventually. I don't know much about smaller Norwegian companies but if you get stuck at one location you give no opportunity to jobs to happen.
stranger
2012-12-09 02:50:31 UTC
heey, you're question is fine. The idea of a pilot is working in a B747, flying for 10 straight hours and earning 100k a year.



Although that description of a pilots life is probably 25 years after graduation there's no doubt that the jobs building up that time may be frustrating, but also enjoayble.



You can build up time by



1) Flight insturcting (low pay, about 25k a year)



2) bush flying



3) cargo



4)Part-135



google them. Although the pay is low for most jobs, think about it this way. you're getting paid to fly. instead of paying companies 100$$$$$$ for renting a cessna for about 2 hours.



it'll come. just be patient.
anonymous
2012-12-08 16:59:07 UTC
AS found on the recruiting pages of most airlines in Europe "Applicants with more than 1,500 hours flight time in fixed-wing aircraft and substantial multi-engine airplane experience will be considered first". Give yourself a few years after graduating flight school to acquire that.
anonymous
2012-12-08 12:15:01 UTC
Haha you aren't going to get hired by an airline right away!!! If you're college is telling you that some major airline is going to give a crap about you once you graduate then leave that flight school immediately!!! And if you believe it.....well.......nevermind. Anyways, you're going to have to work up the ladder like everyone else and get some time in........not in a 747!!!!!!
Warbird Pilot
2012-12-08 19:05:42 UTC
None.


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