Question:
The Entire Flight Planning Process...?
Anthony
2013-01-30 04:10:38 UTC
Well, my CFI lives a fair distance from me, and that combined with other situations means that he never had time to teach me how to properly plan a flight. Here's the problem. I passed my written and I need to do my long cross country this week, and the other guy who was going to teach me how to flight plan is now sick and can't. So, can someone give me a complete, step by step, of how to plan my long cross country? I'm sort of desperate here. Thanks!
Ten answers:
?
2013-01-30 08:26:46 UTC
This forum does not allow enough "room" to fully explain the flight planning process ;I suggest you read what is in the Pilot’s Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge. As a (student) pilot ,You SHOULD have a copy (or access to one ) !!

http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/pilot_handbook/media/FAA-H-8083-25A.pdf

Start with Ch. 9- weight and balance,and then ch.10- aircraft performance.

don't forget ch's 11 & 12- Weather and aviation wx services

a review of ch.13- airport operations might be prudent. a well as ch.14- airspace. NOW you MIGHT be ready to tackle the all important ch.15- navigation

ch 17 is worth a look before you wonder off into the wild blue.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
2013-01-30 10:06:09 UTC
1) You do not "need" to do your long cross country this weekend. You may want to, but wants and needs are entirely different things.



2) You obviously are not ready to do ANY cross country flying. If you do not know how to plan a flight you aren't likely to learn enough in the next three days to be competent at it, especially without a CFI looking over your shoulder. Do not expect to get signed off for it until you've had a few good ground instruction sessions and can do it competently, on your own, without help.



3) Gee, six months ago you were "getting my IFR this winter / spring". It appears you're not progressing quite up to expectations. Philosophically, unhappiness is most often the result of unrealistic expectations.



4) Your instructor never had time? Doubtful. You probably never made the time. If you cannot take flight training seriously and set aside the required time for training and study, do not expect to succeed in it as a career.



5) The wonderful thing about professional aviation is that pretty much everyone is competent, knows their job, does their job and offers no excuses when they don't meet expectations. Those that don't measure up simply don't remain long in the business.
2013-01-30 11:52:26 UTC
Sorry, this just is not credible!



There is no way you would be authorised to do a long solo cross country without extensive teaching of the procedures and several cross country flights with your CFI.



I have never seen a PPL written which did not include an extensive examination of your navigational and flight planning abilities, so I don't accept that either.



If I am wrong, then you have the wrong CFI.



I will now give you the best advice you will ever receive here. If you really have to travel cross country this weekend, get in your car and drive!
John R
2013-01-30 05:49:34 UTC
No offense, but my "BS" alarm is making a huge racket every time I read your question!

Before doing your long cross country you would have to had planned and flown several shorter cross countries, both with your instructor and solo, and your instructor would have had to sign off on your flight planning for those. That makes your story rather less then creditable.



In case your instructor is actually criminally negligent, I recommend you get a new instructor, and if you can find a copy, "The Student Pilot Manual" by William Kerschner.



The basic steps:

Take a sectional, draw a line along your route of flight. Pick landmarks along the route to use as check points ( for a student, try to find check points no more than 15 miles or so apart) and mark your course line at those points. Now use your plotter, measure the total distance and the distance between checkpoints and record each section in your nav log. Use the plotter, measure the true course, and determine magnetic course.

Get your weather briefing and use the winds aloft forecast to calculate your wind correction and ground speed for each segment. Use that to calculate your ETE - and record the time it should take you to reach each checkpoint. You also use the ETE with your fuel consumption rate to determine your fuel requirements. You need to land with at least a 30 minute reserve, but for VFR flights there is no requirement to have an alternate (if the weather is not VMC at the destination, you are not going!). Add or subtract your wind correction to your magnetic course to get your magnetic heading, add any compass deviation to get your compass heading.

Repeat this for each leg.

The rest is normal preflight, which includes checking weight and balance figures.
2013-01-30 08:03:55 UTC
It appears to me that you need a better instructor, or you at least need to schedule and pay for some ground instruction time with him, otherwise you are wasting your money. If you do not know how to properly plan a flight by now you should never have been signed off to do a short cross-country flight. It appears to me that your instructor has dropped the ball big-time.



Here are some helpful guides:



http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/pilot_handbook/media/PHAK%20-%20Chapter%2015.pdf The Flight Planning section begins on p36.



http://www.igot.net/fly/cfi/files/crosscountry/VFR_CC_guide.pdf



http://legacy.fitaviation.com/prospective/UTP/documents/files/crosscountry_planner.pdf



http://www.mkaerospace.com/CFI/elements-cross-country.pdf



If you'd like to pay me a fair hourly wage I'll be happy to set up a skype session with you.
FanMan
2013-01-30 04:49:25 UTC
First, YA is NOT a place to get flight instruction. But more important, if your CFI is ready to sign you off for a long cross country without making sure you know how to play your flight, you need to find a new CFI.
?
2016-10-13 09:10:12 UTC
at the start i does not get under pressure on a similar time as making plans a holiday via fact all you have have been given to rigidity approximately is packing some outfits etc. no longer the be all and end all of existence. you ought to have severe rigidity tiers! I often p.c.. an afternoon till now and that i easily don't get under pressure throughout the time of my holiday because it is the completed factor of going on one - to circumvent the concerns of on a daily basis existence! relax extra is my advice.
call2fly
2013-01-30 10:57:59 UTC
I doubt seriously you passed your written without this knowledge, among all the other references you have been given you might also want to check out "The Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge"
User commited avatar suicide
2013-01-30 04:44:11 UTC
"excuses are like azzholes. everyone has one."



are you talking about filing the flight plan or about doing the NAVIGATION from scratch?



if you did not receive schooling on the navigation, you better postpone your xcountry until you complete ground schooling on that subject.



now, from scratch.

1. you get all available charts.

2. check for NOTAMs and FUPs for active airspaces at the time of your flight to avoid them or know the rules of crossing them.

3. you select your turning points.. considering your training status, lonely road junctions, single mounts or other significant terrain features.. i'd suggest large towns but there usually you can expect reasonable traffic there.

4. you check for the weather along your route and at destination and select appropriate diversion / alternate.

5. from there, you will know how much fuel you need. calculate estimated elapsed time considering the worst predicted wind (try for several flight levels, even though for general aviation cessna style it's pretty much the same like for helicopters.. stick to ground if flying against the wind, pop up if flying with tail wind to mitigate/ use the winds aloft.

remember your route fuel does not end at destination but at ALTERNATE plus holding time.



6. nav aids. check them, make sure you can use those and you know the equipment onboard to use them.

7. write down frequencies in order of contact.

8. calculate bingo fuel (starting from alternate, counting backwards so that you know how much fuel you HAVE to have at each turning point).



now you know the fuel required for flight. add persons onboard, cargo, luggage, stuff and check against temperature and runway length. do you fit the MTOW for given meteo conditions? if not, re-route or plan refuel down the route.



that's about that.

been doing this in the cargo bay of helicopter in flight, including plotting the VOR bearings and IFR stuff.



then of course, file the flight plan and keep your weather info updated.
Warbird Pilot
2013-01-30 07:45:33 UTC
Wow, and you passed the written without knowing how to do this... doubt it seriously.


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