single engine add on?

Question

I have a basic questions to ask. I have my commercial multi engine license (rcvd about a month ago). I need to get my single engine add on to start my CFI training. I have went up once and we flew some lazy eights, steep turns, slow flight chandelle's and steep spirals. I had 2 questions for some CFI's out here. How many hours does the training generally take to complete if i can go 4-5 times a week. 2nd question is I was not aware we had to do steep turns and slow flight for the add on. My CFI is brand new and seemed unsure of this. I am at work right now anddon'tt have my PTS book at the moment but if anybody has info on what isrequiredd for the checkride I would appreciate it.

Answer 1

The fact the your CFI is "new" is no excuse. He should, at the very least have a copy of the pts available, It is the Instructors "bible".

You will need a minimum of three hours dual in prep for the practical exam. Endorsements, medical etc.

The maneuvers and tasks are clearly out lined in the PTS. You will be required to demonstrate a STEEP SPIRAL,CHANDELLES, and LAZY EIGHTS ( B,C,&D of of area of operations X.) steep turns will not be required. Have a look at page 1-v The chart tells you the required tasks. You can access the PTS on line here:

http://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/airmen/test_standards/pilot/media/FAA-S-8081-12B.pdf



IF you can perform to commercial standards (today) in the multi, you should only need 6-10 hours of dual to be ready for the ride in a single.

Answer 2

I would second everything that Cherokee said right up until the point where he says 6-10 hours. In your situation, assuming that you have some previous single engine time under your belt, you should be able to do this in closer to 4 hours, maybe 6. Of course, this assumes that you already know all of the maneuver knowledge, and you just need to put it into practice.



You would not look at 61.129 because that addresses those seeking a Commercial Pilot Certificate. You are seeking an additional class rating; therefore, you will need to look at 61.63--OK I'm being lazy, it might be 61.65. Whichever it is, it addresses adding category, class, and type ratings to an existing pilot certificate.



I must be missing something. Can someone explain why is Rick calling shenanigans



Good Luck

Answer 3

Here's the easy and short answer. The legal requirement is a minimum of 3 hours dual received in preparation for a flight test, and an endorsement from a qualified instructor that says you covered all the maneuvers and meet the proficiency requirements. You may need more time or you might not.

Answer 4

Would like to see the answer to this too

Answer 5

sorry sir

you are not supposed to start your training without having the copy of PTS

Answer 6

I call shenanigans.

Answer 7

If in the US You will need to meet the requirements in 61.129

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=40760189a03dfea0b501608f33820a45&rgn=div5&view=text&node=14:2.0.1.1.2&idno=14#14:2.0.1.1.2.6.1.1



(a) For an airplane single-engine rating. Except as provided in paragraph (i) of this section, a person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with an airplane category and single-engine class rating must log at least 250 hours of flight time as a pilot that consists of at least:



(1) 100 hours in powered aircraft, of which 50 hours must be in airplanes.



(2) 100 hours of pilot-in-command flight time, which includes at least—



(i) 50 hours in airplanes; and



(ii) 50 hours in cross-country flight of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes.



(3) 20 hours of training on the areas of operation listed in §61.127(b)(1) of this part that includes at least—



(i) 10 hours of instrument training of which at least 5 hours must be in a single-engine airplane;



(ii) 10 hours of training in an airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller, or is turbine-powered, or for an applicant seeking a single-engine seaplane rating, 10 hours of training in a seaplane that has flaps and a controllable pitch propeller;



(iii) One cross-country flight of at least 2 hours in a single-engine airplane in day VFR conditions, consisting of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure;



(iv) One cross-country flight of at least 2 hours in a single-engine airplane in night VFR conditions, consisting of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and



(v) 3 hours in a single-engine airplane in preparation for the practical test within the 60-day period preceding the date of the test.



(4) 10 hours of solo flight in a single-engine airplane on the areas of operation listed in §61.127(b)(1) of this part, which includes at least—



(i) One cross-country flight of not less than 300 nautical miles total distance, with landings at a minimum of three points, one of which is a straight-line distance of at least 250 nautical miles from the original departure point. However, if this requirement is being met in Hawaii, the longest segment need only have a straight-line distance of at least 150 nautical miles; and



(ii) 5 hours in night VFR conditions with 10 takeoffs and 10 landings (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport with an operating control tower.





Then as with all others take the exam, they will probably test your skills with steep turns, etc since that is part of the practical exam.

Just an opinion.. check with the local FSDO if in doubt.

I was just looking through them and pulled the following

5 hours IFR training in Singles,

2 hours day cross country in singles 100 miles leg

2 hours night cross country in singles 100 mile leg

3 hours prep time for practical test

10 hours solo flight to include the items listed.





ADD

OK I stand corrected... its in part 61.63! Just shoot me!