Question:
final approach into the airport?
2009-09-09 15:10:28 UTC
When planes are lined up in the air on approach for landing (either general aviation OR airliners,) obviously they need to keep a safe distance. My Question is: Does Air Traffic Control advise pilots what airspeed to maintain? Or is that the sole discretion of the pilot? ...Second Question: when Pilots on approach vectors are advised by ATC of altitude changes and heading changes, are these directions given by ATC people in the airport control tower? Or are these directions given by a separate ATC radar facility. In otherwords, is my assumption completely wrong, that controllers in a control tower give orders that are limited to merely clearance for landing, and clearance for takeoff? final question: Are any of you familiar with the ATC function in the Microsoft Flight Simulator X DEluxe version? How does that work out? Do the simulator enthusiasts know what they're doing, with regard to the air traffic control function? are there any recommended books?
Nine answers:
RickH
2009-09-09 20:07:37 UTC
Airspeed will often be assigned by the Approach Controller who is in a radar facility, not necessarily in the tower cab. He generally controls aircraft that are more than 5 miles from the airport or are above 3000' AGL; although, these are just rules of thumb. The Center (ARTCC or Air Route Traffic Control Center, abbreviated to XXX Center where XXX is the city where the center is located. There are probably around 15 centers in the US: Houston, Ft. Worth, Los Angeles, Cleveland, Atlanta...) Controller will control aircraft above about 10,000' AGL, and more than about 30 miles from the airport. The actual place where transfer occurs between the Tower Controller and the Approach Controller will be governed by an agreement between the two or three agencies.



Neither gives directions; a controller issues a clearance. Refer to my statement above regarding the geographic limitations of each controllers airspace.



Depending on the airport, there may not be an approach control; the Center may handle traffic right up to the Tower's airspace. Also, towers may be completely non-radar, have rudimentary radar or very sophisticated radar.
2009-09-10 22:20:59 UTC
1 - the ATC tell the pilot to maintain the minimum speed or tell him high speed is approved then the pilot will know that to keep distance from other aircraft he gotta maintain high speed



but in some situation the ATC could tell the pilot a speed



2 - the center handle the aircraft in two situation ,, first if it is out of the approach controller range or higher than the transition altitude of the area so when the aircraft inbound reach the approach range the center control well transfer it ,, however if it reached the approach controller range but high than the transition level it will keep contacting the center control until it reach the transition level of the area so the center will give the aircraft radar vector until it reach the approach Range it will be transferred to the approach controller and he will continue the radar vector until the establish then transfer it to tower ,, but usually the center controller give the aircraft only the altitude until it reach the approach and then the approach will give it the radar vector and the altitude , because the approach have about 25 NM so this is enough for the aircraft to be vectored perfectly to the ILS with no problems



3 - the flight simulator X ,, i saw some books about the flight simulator X in Switzerland it was in french ,, it explain everything for you



the atc press (( ` )) this button located usually on the left of button (( 1 ))



you gotta connect at the ground to the ground controller then ask him for clearance to taxi to active runway ,, then he will give you ,, continue taxi on the taxi ways he gave you until you reach the runway then contact the tower (( you will see the frequnsies on the atc window and contect them by pressing the numbers on the left side of the controller name )) so when you reach the runway conatct the tower take the clearance for take-off then take-off ,, if you have filled a flight plan using flight planner in FS then you will be handle to the approch then the center to continue your flight



if not you will continue your flight on your own



+ there is a website called IVAO



link : www.ivao.aero



its nice website you can talk to atc ,, you not pressing button and they will answer you etc



and there is event ,, you will be handled to atc and many useful things



(( you connect using flight simulator (( any version you like ) and see other aircraft taxing , roling on the runway , and even in the air while they are flying to their destinations ))



any more information you can email me from my profile ,, goodbye
Rob G
2009-09-10 14:29:27 UTC
1) When approaching the airport for landing, ATC will issue instructions to the pilots. If it is not busy, the controller may clear the plane for landing pretty far out in which case the pilot can do what he needs to in order to land. If it is busy, then the controller will issue heading/altitude/speed commands to the pilots. If it is a clear day, when the pilot gets close enough, the controller may ask if the pilot has the airplane in front of him in sight. If the pilot confirms that he does, then the controller may clear him for landing. It is the pilot's responsibility to not hit the guy in front of him. There's more to it than that, but that's how it works most of the time.



2) Heading and altitude changes, issued by ATC, can be issued by people in the actual tower. It depends who the pilot is talking to. Usually, the pilot does not talk to the people in the tower until he gets his final vector to the runway. Thus, through out most of the vectoring, the pilot is talking to "approach" control. They may or may not be in the tower. It depends on the area. For example, they may be in a building very far away from the airport or they could be sitting in a dark room on a lower level of a tower. If it is a small towered airport, then those instructions will usually come from somebody standing in the tower.



3) Your assumption is generally correct for busy airports. That is, at busy airports, the tower only deals with take-off/landing/ground. However, at smaller airports that do not have approach/departure control, the tower will handle aircraft further out.



Sorry, don't know anything about FSX. Honestly, if you want to know how it all really works, then don't learn it from a video game. Learn to fly a real airplane.
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2016-04-11 05:57:14 UTC
>AN AIRPORT SENDS OUT A SATELLITE SIGNAL, TRUE OR FALSE? False. There are no ground-based transmissions for GPS approaches. Everything is based on GPS satellites sending a signal and the GPS receiver using geometry to determine its location. The only ground-based component to GPS systems is WAAS, which sends out a ground-based signal to augment satellite signals for more accurate position and altitude detection. This is relatively new and not used often yet. > RAIMS IS A SATELLITE SERVICE WHICH TAKES AN APPROACH BEACON FROM AN AIRPORT, AND SENDS IT BY SATELLITE TO YOUR/MY/OUR GPS RECEIVER, TRUE OR FALSE? False again. There is no ground-to-satellite communications. RAIM is a prediction that there will be enough satellites within the line of sight of the receiver for an accurate position fix. A RAIM failure means there is not enough satellites to positively verify the position of the receiver. > IF THE WIND CHANGES, AND THE AIRPORT CHANGES THE TAKE-OFF LANDING DIRECTION, THE AIRPORT WILL TURN OFF THE APPROACH BEACON FOR ONE COMPASS DIRECTION, AND TURN ON THE APPROACH BEACON FOR THE OTHER COMPASS DIRECTION, TRUE OR FALSE? False. GPS approaches are all stored in the database of the GPS receiver. Nothing ground based. Period. If the wind changes and favors a different runway, the pilot will choose a different approach from the database. EDIT for additional questions: The filed flight plan and associated clearance is for the departure and enroute part of the flight. You are cleared to an airport, but the clearance doesn't specify the approach and runway in use. It is quite normal to have a runway and approach assigned about 50 miles from the destination airport, and it may even change after that. ILS is a ground based approach using radio signals. The pilot must tune the proper frequencies and set up the navigation radios properly. GPS approaches are a different animal entirely - the entire procedure is contained within a database on the plane. The pilot does have to select which approach to use to fly it. With any instrument approach, the procedures are published. Pilots fly instrument approaches using a combination of the published approach procedure and the aircraft's navigation systems.
Chris N
2009-09-09 23:01:11 UTC
1. ATC does advise pilots of airspeed limits if necessary. If not advised to pilots, it is up to their discretion so long as they remind within airspeed limits depending on the airspace they are in.



2. ATC consists of both people in the tower and people in radar rooms for departure and arrival control. Tower is usually contacted within the airport's controlled airspace and departure/arrival is usually contacted for those phases of flight.



3. Those in the tower can control airplanes in the air as well as issue clearances on the ground.



4. No.
2009-09-09 16:22:37 UTC
Speed is at pilot's discretion within the speed limits set by FARs. At busy airports, controllers will assign a speed ("N12345, maintain 170 knots till a 10 mile final") to ensure separation between aircraft, much like cars separate themselves on the freeway by traveling the same speed.



Vectors are given by radar controllers, usually at the TRACON (Terminal RAdar Approach Control) facilities or ARTCC center (Los Angeles Center).



Tower controllers are primarily responsible for the runway and immediate airspace, and while they may have radar, usually do their jobs visually, except when IMC conditions exist.



Can't help with MSFS
al1973
2009-09-09 15:37:31 UTC
Your question is more complex than you might realize because general aviation traffic isn't necessarily required to be "controlled" by anyone depending upon the type of airspace and flight conditions. If any aircraft is flying under Instrument flight rules (IFR) then all separation is provided by ATC, but it is also regulation that all pilots are basically required to maintain separation under all flight situations. So, ATC could advise/require you to adjust your airspeed to maintain minimum separation. For question number two...Usually, vectors are (can be) provided by several facilities including approach control, departure and ARTCC (air route traffic control center) facilities...really it depends on who you are "handed off" to...As for sim enthusiasts who might provide ATC instructions on the sim are probably only as good as their personal experiences within the actual, real life flight environment...flight sim is really a great tool for pilots. Unfortunately, most people consider the program to be merely a game...
Get A Grip
2009-09-09 18:10:29 UTC
A- Approach speed on landing is determined by the aircraft and weather conditions. ATC maintains the seperation.

B- ATC in the tower controls the aircraft on final and take off and when in the control zone. After that they are handed off.

Simulator, unknown.
2009-09-09 15:50:25 UTC
Ask this jetBlue driver how serious approach controllers at JFK are about your speed.


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