Question:
How does a mobile phone affect an airplane's Flight?
trader11292001
2006-08-13 19:12:03 UTC
Just would like to check with the Pilots, Aircraft Crews and the who-knows-this-stuff: How would it affect a flight if someone opens up his mobile phone while you're up there?

Saw someone use his phone while in the middle of a flight, although i didnt see him use it for a phone call I actually saw him using his calculator function.
Fifteen answers:
Rage
2006-08-13 20:00:54 UTC
Ok, this is a much debated topic with many complex scenarios. One of the biggest problems is that there are so many different types of cell phones out there, and there are still people out there carrying around phones that are circa 1992. Old school to say the least. When most commercial airliners were designed and built, they never did any R and D to the problems cell phones may pose. The biggest thought is that the phones EMI (Electromagnetic Interference) will interfere with aircraft radio transmissions and/or aircraft navigation systems. This gets back to my mention earlier of aircraft manufacturers not doing any R and D. The major manufacturer's such as Airbus and Boeing have been doing research, although they don't have much conclusive evidence yet. Every type of cell phone has a different EMI value. Back in 2004 there was an initiative by a few airlines to the FCC and the FAA to review the policy on cell phone use in flight. Here is a link to the CNN web site that refers to said initiative. http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/09/technology/personaltech/cellphones_inflight/

The FAA and FCC are still reviewing evidence and conducting testing. Also, Mythbusters, the show on the Discovery channel, took this myth on and came up with some interesting results. I unfortuanatly couldn't find the exact results, but it was Episode 49 if you would like to do your own research on the topic. I have personally done some of my own research as I am an A and P Aircraft Mechanic and also a commercial pilot.



I know that my answer skips around a little and is a little hard to read, I apologize for that, I had surgery a few days ago and am still taking some pretty good pain meds........ Don't worry, I'm not currently flying or working on aircraft. :) I'll wait till I'm fully healed up and not on any meds. Hope this helps at least some. I have a lot more resources for information if anybody would like them.
Jacqueline
2016-08-09 08:53:00 UTC
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Woody
2006-08-14 03:09:21 UTC
Short answer - it can. Mobile phones are banned on aeroplanes for a reason. Electromagnetic Compatability can result in all kinds of unforseen occurences, at any stage during the flight. Some may be benign, others can be catastropic.



If used during an apporach to land, mobile phone signals have been known to drag ILS glideslope / localiser bars away from the runway centreline. If visibility is poor, the safety implications are obvious - especially if the Autopilot is coupled into the ILS. The potential is there for the aeroplane to fly itself into the ground without anyone onboard realising.



Mobile phone signals can affect aircraft on ground aswell, it has been known for signals to trigger release of wing stores and even set off ejector seats. So if you ever see anyone using a mobile phone anyway near an aeroplane - slap them.



Some airlines are considering allowing the use of mobile phones onboard, however only with known frequency bands that have been fully tested to ensure Electromagnatic Compatability with aircraft systems.
webman
2006-08-13 19:27:11 UTC
I'm not so sure cell phones do nothing to affect electronics. I know for a fact that every time I turn my cell on or off when I'm at the computer, the screen flickers for a few seconds. So, would this be safe if your flying around mountains? Who knows? I'll keep mine off in the plane just in case.
mcdonaldcj
2006-08-14 12:19:49 UTC
i would only think that Cell Phones would mess up the communications between the pilots and the tower, or the nav frequencies but there are so many cell phones out there that carry different frequencies so it is hard to tell which ones would be safe, which ones would not... its better to turn all cell phones off during flight as there are so many frequencies that pilots use



you can have a mobile phone open to use it as a calculator or something, just make sure it is on a mode called "air plane mode" or something to that effect so you can not receive signals from a satellite
anonymous
2006-08-13 22:54:37 UTC
The popular opinion is that it may foul up the airplane's radio navigation instruments. As a licensed pilot, airplane owner, and electronic engineer, I consider this to be baloney. The original reason for banning cell phone use in flight is that the ground stations did not handle well the similar signal strength to a large number of stations, so that the cellular system had trouble picking a suitable tower to use to talk to you. Nevertheless, one needs to keep the cabin crew happy, and stow your phone while the airplane is in flight.
Queenie
2006-08-13 20:08:29 UTC
I'm not a pilot but I don't think cell phones affect flights at all. I think the airlines just tell you that so that you will pay to use their phones. If using cell phones wasn't safe, then why is it safe to use their phones? Just another way to get your money!
isz_rossi
2006-08-13 20:24:02 UTC
Its not throughout the flight. Its only restricted sometime during the flight.



The mobile phone seems to interfere with avionics equipment in aircrafts. Pilot communications can be intercepted with the right equipments. Navigation equipemnt can also be affetcted.



Imagine someone with a handphone and some other techno gadgets, jamming the pilots frequency.



Cheers.
anonymous
2006-08-13 19:33:44 UTC
The answer is, nobody knows for sure because that stuff is so complicated and it's all controlled by electronics.



So it's safer to leave the damn things turned off - plus your fellow passengers will thank you. Lord knows I get tired of landing and then 50 people have to instantly turn on their phone and call somebody who probably doesn't care to say "we landed, I'm still on the plane"



Thanks for letting me vent.
Pablo
2006-08-13 20:32:18 UTC
It does not affect them at all.



I fly all the time, not commercial, and I use my cell phone all of the time, providing I can get a signal, which is 70% of the time.



Remember, on 9/11, many people on board the planes called their families to update them on the attacks



My guess is that airlines and phone companies would appreciate your business on the "airphones".
riksolo
2006-08-13 19:23:20 UTC
it dosen't per say , but there are hundreds of different types of cell phones and hundreds of electronic systems that are potentially affefted by cell phones it would take the fcc/faa thousands and thousands of man hours to test all systems against posssible interferenc so the blanket ban is in effect.
cuteredhead
2006-08-13 19:17:49 UTC
It doesn't do anything. There's actually some talk from the FAA to start allowing cell phones.
vetteslayer
2006-08-14 14:03:25 UTC
it doesnt really have any effect,but there is still a one-in-a-million chance that it could soo the FAA is ruling on the safe side of caution and has out-right banned you from making a call on the plane.
Ask Dr. Dingo
2006-08-13 19:38:26 UTC
The use of mobile phones on commercial aircraft is generally forbidden during flight. The most well-known reason for this banning is that the mobile phone could interfere with the sensitive equipment on the aircraft. This policy is often based around the fact that during development, many aircraft were not designed to accept signals from mobile phones and there has not been sufficient testing to be sure that they could. This basis can be seen in plans to improve certification [1]. However, the use of mobile phones on aircraft is forbidden across the board by most aviation regulators, and the design specifications of individual aircraft are not taken into account.



Social Resistance to Mobile Phone Use on Flights

Many people prefer the ban on mobile phone use in flight, fearing undue amounts of noise from cellphone chatter. People tend to talk more loudly into mobile phones than they do in person.



There are several reasons for this. One reason is people subconsciously rely on hearing their own voice back to modulate their own speech volume. Mobile phones don't send "backtalk" (a reduced volume "copy" of the person's speech) back into the earphone. Land-based phones have done this for a long time (this is also the cause of the "echo" effect you can hear on many cordless phones). Another reason is the conversation in the phone may demand more mental processing power. This is because mobile phones sound different from normal speech due to audio data compression or analog background noise. Whatever the reason, the net effect is the person is less aware of the people around him/her.



Electromagnetic Interference

Some level of electromagnetic interference is theoretically possible from active radio transmitters such as mobile phones on aircraft. Exactly how much and in what way is dependent on the particular phone system in use and the plane component in question. Whether that level of interference should have any influence on electronic systems which should be designed to fly through lightning storms without failing is often disputed by critics of the ban.



One area in which interference would be most likely is in the radio-based audio equipment used for voice communications between the aeroplane and the ground.



Some mobile phone systems such as GSM may cause an irritating buzz (explained in the TDMA article) which would certainly disrupt communications from the pilot to ground. The high speed of air travel may make interference more likely than it would otherwise be. The maximum speed of travel in a mobile phone system is limited by several factors, frequency changes, rate of change of timing offset, etc. The speed of an aeroplane often exceeds these (typically phones are designed for use in a fast car) which means the mobile will fail to register to the network and retry registration repeatedly.



Older analog cell phones broadcast at a higher power of up to several Watts. This has the potential to cause more general interference, and since the voice signal is not encoded there may be a concern of direct crosstalk into the communication system of the plane, although that is highly unlikely because the plane's radios transmit in an entirely different frequency band.



A recent study has shown that cell phones interfere with flight equipment. While not nearly as drastic as causing the plane to crash, cell phones can interfere with the intercom and possibly with voice communications. GSM phones most likely do this, because they can produce noise from nearby speakers. However, it would likely be legally unreasonable to ban certain cell phone providers (in the US, that would include Cingular and T-Mobile) while not others.



Current Situation

According to the BBC " most of the evidence is circumstantial and anecdotal. There is no absolute proof mobile phones are hazardous." [2] Some airlines do allow use of mobiles phones in flight, only restricting their use (and use of all other electronic devices) during take off and landing when communications with the ground are most critical. Meanwhile the passenger aircraft manufacturers, such as Boeing and Airbus, have begun to introduce wireless services on their planes (e.g. WLAN) and radio-based satellite phones are a standard installation on aeroplanes. Clearly there is a direct airline industry advantage in having control over communication systems from within an aeroplane with no clear way for potential competitors to certify their systems as safe for use on board. Some articles have even gone so far as to accuse the airline industry of pushing the ban on mobile phones in order to increase revenue from on-board telephones [3]. A number of new phones have an "airplane mode" feature that presumably stops all incoming and outgoing communications while still allowing the user to play games, type notes etc.



A few U.S. airlines have announced plans ([4] and [5]) to allow mobile phones to be used on aircraft, pending approval by the FCC and the FAA. The idea is similar to that used in some cars on the German ICE train: the aircraft will contain a mobile signal repeater that will then transmit the signals to a terrestrial-based system on separate frequencies that do not interfere with the cellular system. Since the repeater is literally right next to the passengers, the phones' output power would be reduced to the lowest level possible, reducing interference with cells on the ground. ARINC and Telenor have formed a joint venture [6] company to offer such a service on-board commercial aircraft and will be launching a service in late 2006 that will safely allow you to use your cellphone on-board the aircraft. The cellphone calls are routed via the on-board SATCOM to the ground network and an on-board EMI screening system stops the cellphones contacting the ground network.
KA-BOOM
2006-08-14 03:33:52 UTC
It dosnt do anything to the planes.


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